30 Days of Sobek: Day 17 – How Sobek Relates To Other Gods and Pantheons

Well, Sobek did foster me off to Hekate for a year, so…

Which turned into five years and counting and oh, look, you’re Hekate’s witch now, so this is fine. But I digress.

Foreign Gods

Sobek’s connections to other pantheons are mostly through the Roman pantheon, iirc. Oh, and the Greek. He was seen as Helios by the Greeks, and I believe the Romans equated Him with Mars, but don’t quote me on that. Those are the connections I’m most aware of right now.

As for modern times, He seems to get on well with other gods. Mars, I can attest to, and Hekate. Sobek and Mars tend to have a similar sort of energy, and to be honest, that historical connection makes more sense to me than Sobek=Helios, but perhaps those who know Sobek-Ra can see Sobek=Helios more easily than I can.

Sobek’s a very laid-back sort of god, and I’d argue He’d get on well with many gods, though I haven’t tried this to find out. I get the impression that if it’s a god who’s going to help you, He’ll go along with it. This is basically why He gave me to Hekate, there were things only She could teach me.

Egyptian Gods

This feels like a repeat of the gods they’re related to question, but honestly, I’ve not yet had any experiences with Him and other Egyptian gods that didn’t go well. If anything, my aversion to Hethert is on me, not Him, so that’s something I need to work on. But yeah, even with Set, things seem to be fine. He’s a pretty chill god, so He tends to get on with other gods pretty well. But this is just my limited experience, so others might have a different experience of Him and other gods that I don’t have.

But anyway. I think that’s about it for this one. I’d be interested to know what other devotees have experienced in terms of His relationships with other gods.

30 Days for Sobek: Day 14 – How Sobek’s worship has changed in modern times

And here’s your second bonus post because tomorrow is going to be hectic, and I don’t want to forget to post this one. We’re nearly at the halfway mark, which means it’s just over two weeks until the Sobek devotional opens for submissions! I hope you’ve got some things ready to send me! 😀

I suspect it has changed a lot in modern times, but then I suspect this is true of all gods worshipped now. I don’t know how much other devotees veer from the historical; my experience with Sobek devotees is that we’re more solitary than not, so, ymmv, and I would love to hear from other devotees about their practice.

I tend more towards the historical methodologies and ritual structures when I approach His worship, but I never feel like I can’t improvise either and create something modern if I need it. But then there are a lot of gaps in His history and cult worship, so if you don’t make something up, or hack the old material we do have, there’s not much left to work with. So changes are a necessity in modern times.

Even the fact that the societies we work in, we worship in, are completely different. There are no temples, no temple staff, no opened statues, no villages and cities and towns feeding the temples and their priests. All this has changed. It’s not there anymore. It’s just us, with our tiny shrines, and our priesthoods-of-one, doing what we can, and giving what we have, to Sobek. It’s a pittance to what They used to have, but it’s better than nothing.

And of course we rebuild Sobek in different ways, depending on what we resonate with. And some of us resonate with Sobek-Ra, and some of us resonate with Sobek Shedety, and some of us just resonate with Sobek, in whatever form He comes in. And how we see Him, too, will change. But that’s okay. He’s big enough to take it all in His stride.

30 Days of Sobek: Day 8 – Variations on this Deity

According to the LAGG, there is Sobek, Sobek Shedety, and Sobek-Ra, as the three main aspects or forms of Sobek, and I’m inclined to agree. The only other flavour of Sobek I’d add to this list are all the Faiyum crocodile gods (like Soknopaios Nesos) from the Greek period, which are, as far as I know, tiny regional Sobeks, but that’s about all I can tell you about them. There are lists of names, but I’m not sure how they were conceived, whether they were separate gods, or just different names for Sobek in different regions of the Faiyum, and whether they were actually Egyptian in origin, or just a Greek creation.

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30 Days of Sobek: Day 3 – Symbols and Icons of Sobek

There are going to be a few pictures in this one, it seems like the most useful way to do this instead of a wall’o’text. This probably won’t cover everything, either, just the things I’m most aware of. In some ways, Sobek has very few symbols. He is so closely tied to the crocodile that anything else sort of falls by the wayside. But there are some other animals mentioned in His epithets, namely bulls and rams (for the Min-like fecundity aspects of Him), as well as the calf and the falcon/hawk. By and large, though, Sobek is the crocodile.

There are usually three general forms of Him as a crocodile. He can be shown simply as a crocodile, though sometimes He is shown wearing either His normal headgear, or a solar disc. He can also be shown as a mummified crocodile or as a crocodile on a shrine, as well as a crocodile-headed man.

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Sobek devotional news: Announcing ‘Lord of the Carnelian Temple’

Signal boost the shit out of this plz, y/y? :D?

OKAY SO. I might have mentioned I’d put my hand up to edit a Sobek devotional anthology with Bibliotheca Alexandrina, and after a lot of work and wrangling and sorting things out, it’s all official now. I have a title and everything!

Lord of the Carnelian Temple info

Anyone who works with Sobek, or has an interest in Sobek, including Sobek-Ra (because I know there are some of you out there, too), is more than welcome to submit work for this anthology. ILU all, let’s make this happen. ❤

I’m opening submissions in July, and running it through to the end of the year, so don’t let me down! I’ll be looking to release it by March next year, if you all do your part and send me enough material. Start working on your submissions so the world can finally have a Sobek devotional. I have dreamed about putting one of these together for years, and now it’s so close. SO CLOSE. Help me finally stop dreaming about this and make it a reality. ❤ ❤ ❤

I’m still deciding on what I’m going to include, but I’m going to at least try to get all my LAGG epithet translations done so there’s as full a list as possible (even though I’m missing, like, eight pages, thanks, google books, not helpful). There will probably be at least one ritual, some hymns, and some fiction. Maybe an essay if I feel inspired enough to do that.

So yes, bring me your Sobek things!

And if anyone wants to discuss this project privately, or talk about potential submissions, before things kick off in July, hit up sobekdevotionalATgmail.com. TYVM. ❤

Sobek Rosary – coming soon!

Sobek and Isis prayer beads

A collection of Sobek rosaries, and another set I made at the same time. The set in the middle is for Isis/Hekate, but the others are for Sobek, made using the same pattern, but with different gemstone beads. Also, the second from the right, I now realise, has a bead missing, so it will probably remain with me, rather than go into the pool of Things That Might Get Sold One Day.

So I was asked a while ago about whether I might ever sell prayer beads with set prayers, and my brain decided this was a challenge I needed to meet. The prayer itself was drafted over a couple of days, and the beads took one afternoon to string together, once I had the pattern. The above, sans the pink set, are mostly prototypes at this stage, but they’re made from a mix of carnelian, lapis, sodalite, moonstone, red tiger eye, goldstone, and blue goldstone. I used tassels, mostly because I have a metric shit-ton of them, and it seems easier to prototype with tassels than use up the charms I don’t have because I haven’t done a charms order in way too long.

The beads are made of 29 beads, excluding the spacers. The four larger beads are for Dawn, Noon, Dusk, and Midnight. The bead next to the tassel is for the opening/closing prayer. The other 24 beads are for each hour of the day. So it’s designed to follow the progress of the sun, and Sobek, throughout the day and night, with an hour for each prayer. I’m still drafting the layout and final wording of the whole thing, but I thought I’d post the draft I first came up with below the cut, just as a little teaser. I’m hoping to have these printed out on nice paper, with brief, but sufficient instructions, that get shipped along with the beads. I’m also contemplating a set for Heru and Isis, and perhaps anyone else who decides they want a set prayer for their beads, but those are a long way off.

Actually, the third from the right, the lapis set, isn’t made the same as the others, and I think that was because I’d run out of 4mm beads. So I think there are twelve beads in each section. That might just end up as another set of Sobek beads, rather than ones that go with this particular prayer. Which reminds me to add 4mm beads to my next bead order, when I have any money left to do that. (Srsly, buy my things so I can keep making new things. Like these!)

Anyway. Enough of my rambling. Here’s the draft prayer I came up with. Once I’ve settled on a final version, I’ll try it out for a while, and when I’m happy with it, it’ll go out with the beads, and I’ll post a longer 101 thing about it here for future reference. Any feedback or suggestions are always welcomed.

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